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		<title>By: Essay</title>
		<link>http://einiverse.eingang.org/2009/11/18/oer-and-a-pedagogy-of-abundance/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Essay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their reputation plus large repositories in a single location means that people can easily find content and will be more willing to trust its authority or accuracy on the basis of the repository&#039;s existing reputation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their reputation plus large repositories in a single location means that people can easily find content and will be more willing to trust its authority or accuracy on the basis of the repository&#8217;s existing reputation. </p>
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		<title>By: Essay</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michelle, 
 
I was really thinking that you will talk or include youtube in your article but i was surprised it was not even mentioned. Maybe i was thinking something else when you talk about the music industry as to how artist can produce their own or market their own using social sites such as youtube or facebook. I have no idea about OER or MIT, but i was really concerned about the power of social sites like the ones i mentioned. Producers are not doing it free will the consumers are watching and listening things for free. I already saw an essay about &quot;piracy on social networking sites&quot; and there was even a case where the kid was dancing with a popular music owned by a big music company. Open source, free, public, community, friends and social words are now a harmful things to the industry. 
 
Mechan .. youtube user </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michelle, </p>
<p>I was really thinking that you will talk or include youtube in your article but i was surprised it was not even mentioned. Maybe i was thinking something else when you talk about the music industry as to how artist can produce their own or market their own using social sites such as youtube or facebook. I have no idea about OER or MIT, but i was really concerned about the power of social sites like the ones i mentioned. Producers are not doing it free will the consumers are watching and listening things for free. I already saw an essay about &#8220;piracy on social networking sites&#8221; and there was even a case where the kid was dancing with a popular music owned by a big music company. Open source, free, public, community, friends and social words are now a harmful things to the industry. </p>
<p>Mechan .. youtube user </p>
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		<title>By: Eingang</title>
		<link>http://einiverse.eingang.org/2009/11/18/oer-and-a-pedagogy-of-abundance/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Eingang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by, Martin. 
 
I agree there&#039;s big OER as illustrate by MIT OpenCourseWare and little oer, like the Twitter Love Song or the Pedagogy of Abundance slideshow.  I also agree that it&#039;s likely the high cost per course at MIT at the moment is due to rights clearance and preparing pre-existing content for the format; that cost should go down as people format the content appropriately from the start and use rights-cleared or freely licensed content in their material. 
 
However, the bigger issue hiding in here isn&#039;t actually the cost, although an awareness that there is a cost is a good thing to have.  Big OER has a huge advantage over little OER in two areas: findability and reputation.   In the talk&#039;s backchannel and in my blog post, we talked about information filtering and crap detection.  An abundance of OER content means there&#039;s a need for finding appropriate content to use.  MIT, The Open University, and other such initiatives are well-known with respected images.  Their reputation plus large repositories in a single location means that people can easily find content and will be more willing to trust it authority or accuracy on the basis of the repository&#039;s existing reputation.  MIT and The Open University can become de facto information filters.  Little oer has a much harder row to hoe in that respect. 
 
I can&#039;t help but wonder if that means that means, in the world of a pedagogy of abundance, we&#039;ll see a similar pattern as to what happened with ISPs?  At first ISPs proliferated.  There were many, many to choose from.  Eventually, over time, it collapsed down into a few major companies along with a few hardy independents in a given area.  Will OER mature the same way, simply because of the reputation and findability issues? 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by, Martin. </p>
<p>I agree there&#039;s big OER as illustrate by MIT OpenCourseWare and little oer, like the Twitter Love Song or the Pedagogy of Abundance slideshow.  I also agree that it&#039;s likely the high cost per course at MIT at the moment is due to rights clearance and preparing pre-existing content for the format; that cost should go down as people format the content appropriately from the start and use rights-cleared or freely licensed content in their material. </p>
<p>However, the bigger issue hiding in here isn&#039;t actually the cost, although an awareness that there is a cost is a good thing to have.  Big OER has a huge advantage over little OER in two areas: findability and reputation.   In the talk&#039;s backchannel and in my blog post, we talked about information filtering and crap detection.  An abundance of OER content means there&#039;s a need for finding appropriate content to use.  MIT, The Open University, and other such initiatives are well-known with respected images.  Their reputation plus large repositories in a single location means that people can easily find content and will be more willing to trust it authority or accuracy on the basis of the repository&#039;s existing reputation.  MIT and The Open University can become de facto information filters.  Little oer has a much harder row to hoe in that respect. </p>
<p>I can&#039;t help but wonder if that means that means, in the world of a pedagogy of abundance, we&#039;ll see a similar pattern as to what happened with ISPs?  At first ISPs proliferated.  There were many, many to choose from.  Eventually, over time, it collapsed down into a few major companies along with a few hardy independents in a given area.  Will OER mature the same way, simply because of the reputation and findability issues? </p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michelle
I think it depends on your definition of OER. If it is the very &#039;heavy duty&#039; OERs we have seen from the OU and MIT then these costs might be true (but I&#039;ll come back them). But if by OER we just mean any reusable educational resource then there are cheaper ones. An obvious example is a slideshare presentation. Given that we are creating the slides and giving the talks anyway they are almost zero cost to produce.
On the costs of the &#039;traditional&#039; OERs I think part of the problem is in trying to graft an OER system onto an existing system that hasn&#039;t been set up to think that way. This means you end up having to do messy stuff like take out references to other course material, or clear rights etc. But if you have as your starting principle that all material will be released freely then it can be a fairly frictionless process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michelle<br />
I think it depends on your definition of OER. If it is the very &#8216;heavy duty&#8217; OERs we have seen from the OU and MIT then these costs might be true (but I&#8217;ll come back them). But if by OER we just mean any reusable educational resource then there are cheaper ones. An obvious example is a slideshare presentation. Given that we are creating the slides and giving the talks anyway they are almost zero cost to produce.<br />
On the costs of the &#8216;traditional&#8217; OERs I think part of the problem is in trying to graft an OER system onto an existing system that hasn&#8217;t been set up to think that way. This means you end up having to do messy stuff like take out references to other course material, or clear rights etc. But if you have as your starting principle that all material will be released freely then it can be a fairly frictionless process.</p>
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		<title>By: A Pedagogy of Abundance &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Pedagogy of Abundance &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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